Today in Atlanta at the Southern Center for International Studies, Ray McGovern, a 27 year CIA analyst took the lead at a meeting with Rumsfeld. Ray McGovern is well qualified to call Rumsfeld on his lies. Wikipedia has a nice biography of him. He was a federal employee under 7 presidents and is former CIA chief for the Middle East, and a former CIA operations officer, making him a veteran of the CIA’s clandestine service, which manages the agency’s counterterrorism center, espionage and paramilitary operations. He recently returned his Intelligence Commendation Award medallion to Congressman Pete Hoekstra, R-MI, and Chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. His credentials are pristine. On my journey, I have met Ray on a few occasions and found him to be thoughtful and very intelligent- and he's a nice man.
Here's what the BBC had to say about the meeting today
What does anyone in this administration know about trust? There is plenty of empirical evidence to support the allegations that this country was lied to, to convince us that we needed to go to war and that this administration had exhausted all options and this invasion was the last choice. Whenever anyone from the adminstration says that now, they just sound like a broken record. So, now they are lying about their lying. It's unbelievable.
McGovern: "Why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary, that has cause these kinds of casualties?"
Rumsfeld: "Well, first of all, I haven't lied. I did not lie then."
Secretary Rumsfeld responded that U.S. forces in Iraq during the war used chemical suits because they also believed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, because of the intelligence reports and because he had used such weapons before. He also said allegations that officials lied to justify the war are 'untrue,' and that such charges are 'destructive' of the trust needed in a democracy.
Thanks, Ray for taking Atlanta today. We'll take it when any one of them come to California; it's only right.